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We tried electing a civil libertarian constitution scholar for President. What exactly are we supposed to try next?


Do not act like sheep perhaps?

NSA/etc has been fucking with people's rights for so long and I'm surprised that their main building is not yet burned down.

Someone one time said "[..] by the people, for the people [..]".

If you think that your responsibility begins and ends with a simple vote, you're far away from reality. ;)


> NSA/etc has been fucking with people's rights for so long and I'm surprised that their main building is not yet burned down.

The last time someone attacked a federal office building it did not end well.


Obama? I think the reasons he got elected have more to do with being young, charismatic, kind of hip, and "not as bad as the other guy."

I mean, I agree with the idea that if a Constitutional law professor allows this stuff to happen on his watch, we're sunk. But I wouldn't describe it as "we tried electing a civil libertarian constitution scholar." We elected a "rock star" politician who happens to have taught Constitutional law in a past life, and paid lip service to liberty for his biggest supporters.


There's more than that though--he actually had a record on civil liberties dating back to the Illinois State Senate, where he pushed through legislation to videotape police interrogations.


Fair enough. I don't know if he really has enough of a record as a politician to judge by, but that's a different issue. I guess his academic credentials, career history, and whatever amount of legislative work for civil rights is good enough for this point. Thanks.


lol. Quoting GP:

> riot

~50% of people have already determined that voting isn't worth their time - wise up and get with the program. The jury box has been thoroughly pwned as well. Traditionally, the remaining step is the ammo box. But that lacks popular support because people are well fed, so we might as well try to turn things around this new fangled computational b0x before that stops being the case.


I think the only answer is to keep trying. I think there will come a point where even the non-technical masses will understand just how backwards everything has become. And upon this growing understanding a future libertarian / constitution scholar will run, and run successfully.




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