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I have to say, I was hopeful up until he mentioned the hunger bit. The delayed sleep phase disorder sounds exactly like me, and I already eat a strict low carb diet, but that fact means that I'm never really hungry. In fact, I believe many people who eat low carb experience the same reprieve from the constant cycle of hungry-satiated-hungry as their blood sugar and energy levels remain constant.

Maybe it's just because I'm not a breakfast eater. Oh well!



Hey, co-q-10 in the morning might help. It is the co-enzyme for melatonin, so it wakes the brain up instead of putting it to sleep. About 12 to 14 hours later, it will cause the body to produce a bit more melatonin than normal. In contrast, taking melatonin will NOT cause the body to produce more co-q-10. I took co-q-10 for several years (in fairly high doses) to fix my sleep issues. I don't have them anymore.

Also, it helped me enormously to seriously clean up the area where I slept. Wash everything, look for hidden mold issues, etc. I am super sensitive to such things. But, also, I have given that advice to several other people who tried it, all with good results. I think it is an oft overlooked issue.

Best of luck!


Yeah, I both have a shifted sleep phase as well as a shifted eating disorder, where I consume most of my calories after 6pm and don't really get hungry at all until 3pm or later most days, even if I go to bed famished.

Also, melatonin gives me depressive episodes. My brain chemicals just aren't a fan of this guy's methods :(


I wrote a post on how to defeat delayed sleep phase disorder. The key is light regulation. See HN thread here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1409107




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